
The Backyard Wildlife Habitat Online Course
Season 2025 Episode 19 | 56m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Amanda and Terasa welcome Abigail Taylor, and Andy Cabe.
Amanda and Terasa welcome Abigail Taylor, and Andy Cabe. The Backyard Wildlife Habitat short course teaches you how to create a thriving, wildlife-friendly space right at home. Amanda takes a boat ride with Jeff Massey of Bulls Bay Seafood to witness the sustainable harvest of clams and oysters from the Bulls Bay estuary.
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The Backyard Wildlife Habitat Online Course
Season 2025 Episode 19 | 56m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Amanda and Terasa welcome Abigail Taylor, and Andy Cabe. The Backyard Wildlife Habitat short course teaches you how to create a thriving, wildlife-friendly space right at home. Amanda takes a boat ride with Jeff Massey of Bulls Bay Seafood to witness the sustainable harvest of clams and oysters from the Bulls Bay estuary.
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♪ ♪ ♪ > Well, good evening and welcome to Making It Grow .
We sure are glad that you could fit us into your schedule.
I'm Amanda McNulty.
I'm a Clemson Horticulture Agent.
And Terasa Lott, who's my co-host and fellow Clemson employee.
We say this is like continuing education.
You still have a good young mind.
I can't remember anything.
But also there's a lot of new stuff that's happened.
> There is.
I appreciate the compliment, although sometimes I feel like I can't remember my own name or what I went to the refrigerator for.
(laughter) But, always happy to be here with our talented panelists who share kind of the current information with us and our viewers at home.
Amanda> Yeah, we sure are.
And we're so glad that you're with us, Abigail Taylor.
And you just graduated, I think.
Abigail> Yes, I graduated in May of this year, so I'm really excited to be here.
Amanda> We are thrilled that you came and you're the Urban Horticulture Agent in Chester, Lancaster, and York.
Is one of those counties still relatively small compared to York County?
> Yeah, Chester and Lancaster County are both a bit smaller.
<Okay> York County has really grown a lot.
Fort Mill has grown a lot.
Rock Hill has- Amanda> Y'all are pretty much a bedroom community for Charlotte.
<Yeah> Yeah, yeah.
My mother went to, Winthrop back when it was a girls' school.
And then, Lill, Lillian went to Winthrop, my youngest child.
So.
Yeah.
Terasa> And my husband is a Winthrop grad as well.
Amanda> That's- Yeah.
And it's funny because, we went for something up there and we went in the auditorium and it was made for women, you know, 100 years ago.
And the seats are about this big.
Have you ever sat in there?
Terasa> I have not.
Amanda> It's really, it's really funny.
They really are tiny.
Anyway.
And anyway, we're so glad that you're- And Andy Cabe, you are the Director of Horticulture at Riverbanks Zoo and Garden.
And y'all always have something crazy and new going on.
> Absolutely.
We always, try to keep something new and interesting happening at Riverbanks, and we've got a lot of things coming up soon.
Amanda> Yeah.
Tell people what this, crazy new thing is with walks over the water and all kinds of stuff.
Andy> Yeah.
So we've got a new skyride called the "Saluda Skyride."
It's, gondola cars that take you over the Saluda River from the zoo, over to the garden.
Amanda> Gondola cars?
Andy> Yeah.
So, enclosed cabs.
It takes you, to the, from the zoo to the garden.
And from the garden back to the zoo.
It's going to cut the travel time down tremendously- Amanda> Because you used to get on a bus.
Andy> Yeah, you used to get on a tram or would have to walk.
So I think...
I think it's a three or four minute ride maybe, it's pretty quick.
Amanda> That sounds fun.
Andy> And you get to see the river.
<Yeah> Terasa> Bird's eye view.
Andy> Exactly.
Amanda> Okay.
And, I think y'all are doing a lot of new planning, and we'll talk about that a little bit into the show, and maybe you can send us some pictures.
Andy> Absolutely.
Amanda> That'd be fun.
Okay.
Clemson has a new online course, Terasa.
It's called the "Backyard Wildlife Habitat Course."
Everybody is trying to find ways to support wildlife.
And I think this is wonderful.
And so we're going to talk about that.
We're going to go up and interview their coordinator, learn all about that.
And then, McClellanville, the seafood capital, it's just so much fun to go down there.
And Livingston's Bulls Bay Seafood is a cool place to go.
And, I think I came home with shrimp and all kinds of stuff when we went down there.
And you'll enjoy visiting there too.
So, Terasa, you usually have some beautiful things that I think our viewers usually send in.
Terasa> We do, the "Gardens of the Week."
That is your time to shine.
It's your chance to show off what you're growing in your yard, your garden, maybe inside plants.
Or perhaps you've captured one of South Carolina's many beautiful places.
Today, we begin with Alison Hoffman, who shared her Phalaenopsis orchids thriving in the humidity of the Lowcountry in Bluffton.
Tanya Long, is a longtime fan of the show, and she shared her Agapanthus known as African Lily or Lily of the Nile.
From Pam Nelson, her 100 year-old crepe myrtle in McConnells.
Laura Courtney gave us a bee visiting Tithonia, or Mexican Sunflower, that was gifted to her as a seedling.
Ann Kelly shared a photo and said "She's learning to grow flowers in Bennettsville."
Ann, we wish you the best of luck and hope we're able to provide you some information that helps you in that endeavor.
From Valerie Waites, a hummingbird moth visiting a Zinnia in Little Mountain.
And we wrap up today, with a photo from Kay Zobrist, who shared High Fall's Gorges State Park in North Carolina, a favorite destination for her and her husband when they aren't playing tennis here in Sumter.
And if you look very closely at the bottom of the waterfall, you'll see a rainbow.
I hope that's a wish of good luck.
Thanks to everyone who shared their photographs.
You can see more on our Facebook page.
And when you see us make a call for "Gardens of the Week," I encourage you to post your photos right there, they may appear on air.
Amanda> And our producer and director, Sean Flynn also plays tennis in Sumter.
<Yes> Amanda> Yep.
So they probably know each other.
Terasa> I think so.
Amanda> Yep, yep.
Hot summer to be playing tennis.
Terasa> Oh my goodness.
Amanda> Woo, woo, woo, woo.
Terasa> Hot, I think is an understatement.
Amanda> It has been hot, hasn't it... recently.
Okay.
Well, I bet we have some questions from people.
Maybe we can help them out.
Terasa> I think we should give it a try.
Our first question comes in from Robin in Rock Hill, and she asked, "What is the secret of the John's Island tomato?"
Amanda> Okay.
Well, Abigail, what do you think?
Abigail> So, we looked into this a little bit.
Me and my, coworkers at the office and the Saint John's Island tomato is not a cultivar of tomato.
It's not a different kind of variety.
It's just this... they call them "John's Island tomatoes" because they're grown around in John's Island.
They're often, people think they're really, really yummy, that they're like a really wonderful type of tomato that grows over there.
It's like this mystical thing over in John's Island that the tomatoes are really, really good.
But it's really just, a combination of a couple things that can make them taste a bit better.
The soil over there is really fertile.
They grow a lot of tomatoes really easily.
It's hot and humid over there, and that's what the tomatoes like to grow in.
Sometimes... We saw some stuff saying that they could be irrigated with a small amount of seawater, which could contribute to more interesting flavor profile in the tomatoes.
It could stress them out a little.
It could sometimes make them a little bit saltier, which will make it taste better.
<Sweeter> Yeah or sweeter.
Amanda> Okay.
And when I was a little girl, I mean, even back, you know, a million, million years ago, everybody would wait for the John's Island tomatoes.
And I'm sure the ones now are different varieties because, you know, everything's changed so dramatically.
But... still and you know, it's so nice to have something local.
<Yeah> It really, really is.
You know...
I mean, we say, you know, "Nothing's finer than stuff grown in Carolina."
So there you go.
Well, thanks for telling us about that.
Abigail> Yeah, of course.
Amanda> Alright, Miss Terasa?
Terasa> Let's see what we have next.
This question comes in from Max in Irmo, who said, "What are these red flowers that have just suddenly appeared out of nowhere in my yard?"
And we do have a picture to help us with that identification.
Amanda> Okay.
Well, Andy, it's hard to stump you, but I don't think this one is horribly difficult either.
Andy> Yeah, I get this one every year.
Usually August into September, somebody... scenario, somebody moves into a new house.
<Oh> you know... come August, September, they see these flowers start popping up with no leaves.
Well, that's the Red Spider Lily, Lycoris radiata.
You and I were talking about it before the show.
You see it at lots of old home sites where it used to line walkways or driveways.
You'll see them coming up, but they're called "hurricane lilies," "naked lady lilies."
They have all- spider lily, all sorts of common names.
<Fun> Hurricane lilies because kind of bloom in hurricane season.
Naked ladies, they bloom without any leaves.
So these, flower stalks just come up out of nowhere.
But... you know, these spidery red flowers- And actually, I was going through the botanical garden this morning, and this is a- Amanda> I wish those were coming up all over my yard.
(laughter) Andy> This is a different kind of Lycoris.
We actually grow probably 50 or 75 different kinds of Lycoris.
So that old common red one, which is a great one, there are a lot more.
And you can see, I'm not sure how well the colors come across on, on the screen, but you can see the tips of these kind of electric, you know, electric colors.
So there's a lot of range in flower color.
Pinks, reds, yellows, whites, creamy, some with stripes.
So there's a lot of, variability.
<Whoa!> Terasa> So we know they don't come up with leaves, but will they put on leaves at some point?
Andy> Yeah.
They'll, put on leaves.
Like the, like Lycoris radiata, they'll have their leaves kind of fall in to winter time.
<Sure> So you'll... once you get to know the foliage, you'll recognize it, like the Lycoris radiata's kind of strap, strap like green leaves.
Probably a little... less wide than your common daffodil.
And they kind of have a faint, like, little stripe down the midrib of the leaf, but pretty identifiable once you've seen it for the first time.
Amanda> And... As they say, in St. Matthews where I live, there are a lot of old yards.
And people used to, as you said, pathways.
The pathways not there, and these things come up.
But one thing I think people should be cognizance of is, when that, you know, it might just be kind of been in the lawn almost now, when the foliage comes up, you really- You don't need to cut that down because, it has to replenish the bulb.
Andy> Right.
And that's... that's a great time you know, these are putting their foliage on typically, after a long mowing season that's kind of done for the year.
And then if you know when they're about to come up, you know, if you know they're going to come up August... you know, in to September you just kind of watch your yard and kind of work around the spots where you got them planted.
But... you know, they definitely are a surprise.
Amanda> And if you want to, you know, share some with a friend, if you got them all over- A lot of bulbs, we just, you know, dig up and kind of sit around.
But I think with these... Are you supposed to replant them immediately?
Andy> Obviously, the quicker you can replant them, the better.
Amanda> It's not like daffodils?
Andy> Yeah, Lycoris are a little finicky, when they get moved.
<Yes> They may skip their bloom for a year or two.
They like to adjust their depth in the soil, they have contractile roots, till they get to the exact point.
So, don't fret if you've moved them all and they didn't bloom the next year, they may just sit there for a couple of years and get, get ready to go again.
Amanda> Okay, but if you did get them up on Thursday, go ahead and get them planted that weekend.
Andy> Absolutely.
Amanda> Okay.
Well, that's lots of fun and they sure are pretty.
And I think, Terasa, one time I read they're, they're the main flower in the cut flower industry in the Orient, in Japan or someplace or China.
<Maybe> But they sure are beautiful.
Terasa> Absolutely gorgeous.
Amanda> Gosh, those are pretty.
Terasa> That pink, you're right, I'm not sure how well the colors will come through for our viewers.
It may not do it justice, but... so beautiful.
Amanda> Okay.
Well, thank you.
Andy> You're welcome.
Amanda> Well, I actually have show and tell.
These are... my favorite Southern pea.
I mean, I love butter beans too.
But these are White Acre Peas, and they are just... eat them, you know, I mean, you know, you need to have some bacon or something in them.
But they are just delicious.
And... Mmm!
Boy, they are good.
And... so these you, you know, you can get butter beans frozen in the grocery store and all that.
But these, you really have to be someplace where people are still growing these to get them.
They're kind of hard to come by.
Terasa> I bet a lot of our local farmers markets will have them.
I think I was visiting the Pee Dee State Farmers Market pretty recently and saw that they were saying that they are freshly shelling the peas.
Amanda> And, one thing though, I got a gallon and if you want to put them up, you're supposed to blanch them before you freeze them, I think.
And you do a good bit of that kind of stuff too.
Terasa> Yes.
So I know, like, with string beans and things that I, I blanch those before.
Amanda> Yeah.
So, don't just put them in those little freezer bags and throw them in the freezer, but, you know... Blanch them and they're going to foam up like crazy, and, so don't be despaired, you know, but that's just what they do.
And, then, you know, you don't have to cook them long.
Just, you know, one or two minutes and then, then you can get them all frozen.
Boy, and they are the best things.
Terasa> You know, Amanda, I am a transplant.
I'm from upstate New York, so I had never heard- So peas, I only knew as English peas.
And so I suspect some of our viewers too may have never heard of Southern peas.
Amanda> Oh, that's true.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you're in for a treat.
Terasa> And what about the snaps?
Sometimes you'll have them with the snaps.
Amanda> Yeah.
People like... Yeah.
Andy> Yeah.
I haven't thought about these in years, but I remember having them growing up.
<You remember?> Yeah, they were great.
Amanda> Yeah, they really are.
So if you go someplace and they have them I would encourage you to get some and try them.
Yeah.
Okay.
I bet you, have had them growing up.
Abigail> I don't know if I did.
I grew up near like Charlotte and Fort Mill.
Amanda> Oh, and they may not have been that popular that far up north.
<Yeah> Up north... (laughter) Abigail> More north.
Terasa> Northern South Carolina.
Abigail> Yes.
(laughter continues) Amanda> Okay.
Well, now we're going to go to the Backyard Wildlife Habitat Course and learn all about that.
♪ ♪ ♪ > Hi, I'm Hannah Mikell, Agronomy Agent with Clemson Extension.
Today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Mallory Maher.
Now, Mallory, you have so many responsibilities with Clemson, right?
You are on the Natural Resources Team an associate for them.
And then you are the Master Naturalist Coordinator, for the state.
> Yes.
So, yep, like Hannah, like you said, I am on the Natural Resources Program Team for Clemson Extension.
I've been working for Extension now, for nine years.
And, yeah, I also have the pleasure of coordinating the South Carolina Master Naturalist Program statewide.
So that, with that job, it's very fun.
Every day is a little bit different.
And I get to meet a lot of great people across the state.
Hannah> Cool.
Yeah, you get to travel a good bit.
So one of, kind of your brainchild then was up here at, where we're at today, actually.
The South Carolina Botanical Garden in Clemson.
So this was formerly just kind of, an unused new space.
You wanted to educate some folks that have backyards similar to this, small spaces, maybe a little bit larger, quarter acre or less even.
Mallory> Yeah.
We're at the South Carolina Botanical Garden.
We're right next to the visitor center.
And the Botanical Gardens is a hidden gem of Clemson.
If you've never been here, I highly encourage you to come out to the Botanical Gardens.
I was talking to the director here, Martin Hamilton, about some other programs that we had with Clemson Extension, and I've always wanted to create some sort of online course or some sort of course that talks about backyard wildlife habitat, specifically geared towards homeowners and small landowners.
Like I said, small acreage or a townhome.
Hannah> Well, girl, I need all the help I can get, so sign me up.
The course is online.
It's on Clemson Online.
Mallory> Yes.
So the course is free and it's on Clemson Online.
And they are great partners here.
They're a great resource.
So we have a lot of, Clemson Online programs that we partner with, we develop about all kinds of topics from, water, to, beginning farming.
<Yeah> But now we have one for backyard wildlife.
And so the course is very simple.
It only has five modules and it's very short.
But it basically gives you all the tools that you need to, provide for an animal's basic needs.
Food, shelter, water, and space.
And how do you bring all those elements together into your backyard?
Hannah> Oh, this so much Mallory.
Mallory> The coolest thing, I think personally in the video is we were able to install this garden and we had drone footage from start to finish.
<Cool> And so you see us all out here, laying out the plants, because that's not really my background, my background is in wildlife.
And so I can tell you what the plants, and what eats the plants, but... learning how to space the plants and with how far they grow and how big they grow, that's really where the South Carolina Botanical Gardens and Martin's team kind of came in to help me with that.
And taught me a lot of things, too.
So we get people like proper pruning techniques.
And making sure you take a soil sample.
Hannah> So if people aren't going to go online and take the course, there's still all those resources in some form or fashion on like HGIC, your local extension agents, right?
<Yes> So there's all these field guides you've told me about.
Mallory> Exactly.
There's a lot of resources out there.
But the trouble is sometimes, there's so many resources out there.
Where do you go to?
And like, I don't know if this one's valid or something like that.
Hannah> It's so much.
Mallory> Yeah, right?
And so part of the course was I wanted to have each module has resources affiliated to.
So you complete them- You watch the recording which is maybe about ten minutes per module.
And then afterwards there's a whole bunch of factsheets that you could click on or additional books or references that you can then follow.
Really when it comes to providing for habitat in your backyard, really the big thing you want to do is assess what you currently have, and what is lacking.
So, definitely go out into your backyard and preserve the resources that you want to keep.
So if you have an oak tree that is producing great acorns every single year- Hannah> Shade.
Mallory> Shade... leave that oak tree.
But if there's another, if you notice you have a great pollinator plant, like, maybe you have some coneflowers that are great.
So you want to make sure that you keep that.
So after you assess that, you then, so you noticed after doing all that I'm like, I don't really have a water source for wildlife, I know I live in an area that's kind of dry.
What can I do?
Well, maybe it's as simple as installing a birdbath.
And there you go.
Now you have, water for wildlife.
But, the big thing, is just kind of making sure that you just kind of properly go through and also coming up with realistic goals.
I think everyone wants a backyard oasis for wildlife.
I think that is the dream.
<Oh, yeah.> But time and patience, that kind of thing.
But, really coming up with goals like maybe something as simple as I'm going to plant five more native plants this year.
And that's the goal to have.
And then the next year you can go back and assess- I'm going to add a water feature this year.
<Right, right.> So keeping them very small and manageable.
And soon enough over the years you're going to have that kind of, have all those elements come together.
<Yeah> So the great thing about native plants is the fact that they are, adapted to our area.
<Gotcha> They are drought resistant, disease resistant.
Wildlife has co-evolved with them over time.
So in the long run, you're going to spend less money on them cause you're not going to have to replace them as often because you're not going to have to do all that maintenance for them too.
<So true.> So, best case scenario, we definitely encourage you to plant native plants when it comes to wildlife.
But we also understand that there are plants out there, that you can't just rip out everything because you might not have the money or something like that.
But as long as making sure the plants that you have are not invasive, that is key.
And then over time you can start working to replace those.
But, there are some non-native plants that do provide value for wildlife as long as they're not invasive.
Hannah> Hey, even in my backyard, all these trees and shrubs that have grown up on the fence rows, like we have about a quarter acre lot in the town of Sumter.
And the squirrels will use the canopy to like, navigate through from one yard to another.
And then we have, like a creek that runs down below our house it's several blocks down.
But there's been like little, ducks that have come up.
Mallory> Oh that's great.
And so, like, I live near downtown Greenville and we've had turkeys in our backyard.
<What> We've had deer.
And it's all about like, using kind of what's around you and really kind of adding connectivity to other people's habitats.
Or maybe there's a area of woods that's a kind of preserved area.
Well, how can I bridge that gap?
So animals don't like to be out in the open.
They want to be able to hide in certain plants and that kind of thing.
They want cover.
Hannah> That's right.
Mallory> So being able to shrink those areas in between large patches of habitat can go a long way.
And that's like where you can cooperate with your neighbors and work together with them to kind of build like a backyard habitat.
And the other thing is wildlife move.
So they might not spend their entire lives in your backyard.
They may only spend parts of their lives in your backyard, and they only spend a small period in there.
But they're using, if you can figure out a way that they can use your backyard for some purpose, that's where it helps.
So, I always have, we have a flock of Cedar waxwing birds that always migrate through our yard.
<Cool> It's every February, right around Valentine's Day, they come and they basically eat every single berry off our holly tree.
But that holly tree is there, and they know it's there.
And so they come back year after year, after year.
So that's providing a stomping ground for species that are not here all the time.
So you can easily add plants like certain, like beautyberry or hollies.
Native plants like that.
Hannah> Yeah.
Yeah, I see that a lot in the understory where I hunt.
We were just basically taking all those wonderful plants they already love and condensing it, right?
And I love the idea of not having to mow my grass all the time.
Mallory> Yes.
Definitely not.
And wildlife like things messy.
<Me too.> So resist the urge to clean up the yard.
Resist the urge- If you can't dedicate your entire yard to wildlife habitat, maybe just leave a certain area for it instead.
So leave the leaves over on like your left half of the yard.
And then the right, you can kind of go follow the HOA guidelines and fix that up.
So there's ways that you can kind of work and it's like slowly over time you're helping... all those species.
Hannah> I know I hear the songbirds now, it's so beautiful.
And all the little buzzing and critters that are wandering around us.
So, you and I were talking a little bit as you navigated through the garden and shared with me- When all this stuff stops flowering and it kind of goes dormant, right?
There are still needs that, the homeowner doesn't need to come and whack everything down and start over from scratch.
<Exactly> Tell me why that important?
Mallory> Yeah.
So, a lot of our, like, native bees, they will actually nest in the stems of plants like coneflowers and black-eyed Susans.
Hannah> Okay, say it again.
So the bees will nest, they're not going to be... <Yes> woodworking in my house- Mallory> A lot of time, people think of bees, they think of honey bees and honey bees will nest in a colony.
But a lot of our native species are solitary nesters.
So some might nest underground, but there's a lot that nest in small cavities.
So if you've ever seen like, a mason bee house, our native bee house all that is, is just kind of taking up the place of an actual, natural occurring cavity.
So, a stem of a small plant and there is even like leafcutter bees that will cut out little holes in leaves and they will, line their, the stems of that, and like roll them up.
<Yeah> It's so cool.
Definitely if you ever see some little holes in the ground.
Definitely take the time and look and peek in there because it's really neat to see they're amazing animals.
But even like other things, like songbirds, like, you hear flying all around, Hannah> It's beautiful.
Mallory> Right now, they're hanging out here because there's a lot of bugs flying around us, and they're eating some bugs and they're getting some good protein.
But the things, like, behind us, like our coneflowers back there when those go to seed, you have goldenfinch or... American finches and those kind of things that are going to come by and they're going to eat the seeds out of this, a lot of our great pollinator plants.
There is a lot of seed eaters.
Hannah> Yeah.
So this has been so much fun.
If they want to learn more about their flowers or their plants or maybe identify some stuff, where do we go to learn that.
Mallory> Yeah.
So we have a lot of great resources.
So, Clemson Extension partnered with the Native Plant Society.
And we have a native plant database where you can put all this information in and you can figure out what native plants should you grow in your certain area.
<Okay> But we also have our Home and Garden Information Center, which is a great resource.
<Yeah> I love them.
I use them all the time.
Just like my own personal thing.
<Me too.> But they're a great resource.
As is your local extension office is there's so many resources out there.
There's a lot more, nurseries that provide native plants.
<Okay> So there's a lot of things for people to know and become familiar <Cool> with the plants that grow in South Carolina.
Hannah> I love it.
This is such a beautiful space, and I'm so glad you had the idea to host us out here.
We so appreciate it.
Mallory> I'm thankful for great partnerships like the Botanical Gardens and Dr. Martin Hamilton and his program team here.
They do great work of all the volunteers that help maintain our garden, because, we don't always have this area.
It's a demonstration area that gets over 300,000 people, and what better way to expose them to something that looks like this?
<Yeah> I'm thankful for them and being able to work with them.
Hannah> Yeah.
We'll have to come up sometime, when we're in the area.
Mallory> Yes, absolutely.
If you're ever at a football game- I love walking here, definitely around like sunsets, is always a great time.
Early in the morning when the birds are out.
I actually got engaged at the Botanical Gardens.
Hannah> We should have lead with that.
What in the world.
(laughter) Mallory> So it's just a whole lot of, you can do all kinds of things at the Botanical Gardens.
Hannah> That's cool.
Well, thank you so much, Mallory.
We appreciate it.
Mallory> Of course.
Yeah, thank you.
♪ Amanda> Well, that was a lot of interest to see.
And I think Terasa, that they have won an award for that program.
Terasa> They have, so Mallory and her contributors Samantha Porzelt, Tancey Belken and Dr. Martin Hamilton won the Search for Excellence in Environmental Quality, Forestry and Natural Resources through the National Association of County Agricultural Agents.
So, it is quite an accomplishment- Amanda> That's a big deal.
Terasa> To win, at the national level.
Amanda> And, we thank Hannah, for going up there and talking to Mallory so we can learn all about it.
It really sounds like something I think a lot of people would like to do.
You know, we are all trying to encourage people to have less lawn and more things that will benefit nature aren't we?
Yeah, yeah.
Great.
Alrighty.
Well, hats, hats, hats.
So, let's see, I had some- you know, Begonias come in all shapes and sizes, and this is a pretty one.
It's kind of speckled, but the flowers are pretty.
And then, you know, then I've got somewhere up here, I've got some, Echinacea and then, some Celosia.
Which sometimes is called "cockscomb," I guess because it looks kind of like a rooster's comb.
Anyway... (Amanda making chewing sound) (laughter) Terasa> Edible jewelry?
Amanda> Yeah.
Actually, they're really sweet.
Terasa> You fooled me.
You have a necklace that looks exactly like that.
(laughter) Amanda> I do.
Anyway, so I just thought it would be fun because I'd gotten these little- All these funky colors of, you know, tomatoes, now.
I thought it'd be fun to fool everybody... (chewing sounds) and get a snack.
Terasa> There sure are.
In fact, I think, that Abi might have perhaps the same... Are those Sungold that are in your necklace?
Amanda> I don't, you know, yeah, I think they were.
Yeah.
And they're tasty.
Abigail> So I brought- We have a garden at the extension office outside, where we grow some vegetables and stuff.
And we grew some Sungold cherry tomatoes.
I think they might be a little bit different than the ones on your necklace, but they're both like a yellow cherry tomato.
Amanda> I think either one would work fine as a necklace.
Abigail> Definitely.
(laughter) These are... just an easy to grow cherry tomato variety.
They start off kind of like a really bright, bright yellow when they're ripening.
Kind of like the ones on your necklace.
Then they turn kind of this, like, really nice orangey color.
So, you know, when, it's really easy to tell when they're ready to be picked.
These actually started ripening in... July.
Like earlier in July, which was nice to have tomatoes then.
And they've been producing really well.
So we've been picking them like every weekend, going out there.
Amanda> I think the joy of cherry tomatoes- It's really hard to grow tomatoes anymore, let's just admit it.
It's really, really difficult.
And then when it's above 70 at night, the pollen is rendered infertile and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's just... it's just not like it used to be.
But cherry tomatoes, you know, it's a little hard to make a, you know, a tomato sandwich out of them.
But, they're just foolproof aren't they?
Abigail> Yes, these have been really easy.
We just put up one trellis in the garden, and they've been growing all over it and they've been easy to pick.
We haven't really had a ton of pest issues, so that's been really good.
<Yeah> And these are really sweet when you bite into them.
And the skin is actually a bit thicker.
So they've been good for cooking.
Amanda> It kind of juices a little.
(laughter) Terasa> I love trying different varieties of the cherry tomatoes, Chocolate Sprinkle and Chocolate Cherry.
And then if you make, like a Caprese salad or something, it's very colorful on your plate.
And it's been kind of fun, close your eyes and try to guess which one you've put in your mouth.
<Oh!> Because they do have different flavors, different textures, different amounts of, like, the meat in the inside.
Amanda> Yeah.
So, you know, the elusive tomato.
But, you know, I just think whoever came up with these cherry tomatoes, my hat's off to them, because we can still enjoy tomatoes.
<Yes> And I guess we could make a sandwich.
We'll see.
We'll try.
Alrighty.
Well, let's see where we are now.
Terasa> I think we have a question.
Amanda> You got something we can help?
Terasa> We're going to try to help Matt and Ruth Hurley.
They're in Leland, North Carolina, and they sent us some photographs and said, "This-" Similar to the other question, "This has popped up in every flower bed."
It's an unwanted plant, though, and they would like us to tell them what it is.
Amanda> Andy help us out.
Andy> All right.
<Ugh> This is my favorite weed to pull in the garden.
Terasa> I was going to say- Andy> It is my one of my least favorite- The reason I like to pull it, it will take over.
And I don't know if we can see easily here.
Terasa> That's a pretty healthy specimen you have.
Andy> Yeah, this is pretty healthy.
So, the leaves will close up, they usually close up at night, but they also close up once you pull it up out of the ground.
But you can kind of see under each leaf all these little seeds.
And you see with all of these leaves and all those little seeds, and I swear every one of them will germinate.
Amanda> And also they explode and scatter their seeds farther than the plant.
So you end up, it just takes over.
So Chamberbitter, this is one that I will walk- because it's so easy to identify and so easy to see.
I try to spend at least ten minutes a night walking through my yard, pulling Chamberbitter.
And I really, you know, I guess like three years ago I gave a... sort of my valiant effort and I could see by pulling it before the seeds come, every year it's making progress.
But, you've got to get it before it sets seed.
It is an annual weed.
It sets about a million seed.
Amanda> And they do... Andy> They do spread.
And if you can, if you can get get those plants pulled before they set seed, you can try to break the cycle.
Amanda> So and I think, this, if you go to old, old yards where people, you know, hadn't been out shopping a lot, or people don't even live anymore, you're not going to find it.
Because this is one of the ones, that we bring home in plants that we buy.
Is what I'm thinking.
Andy> Yeah.
And it's- Amanda> And it has delayed, it doesn't germinate as early.
So you go to the store and you get a plant and you bring it home, and those seeds are in the soil.
Andy> Suddenly you got Chamberbitter.
Amanda> Boy, it is a- I put out a pre-emergent... Andy> Sure.
Amanda> ...this year.
And I have to do it again probably, you know, as a time... and I hope that'll give me some control.
It is just, boy... Andy> It's very, it's very rewarding to pull though.
Amanda> Yeah.
But it's also kind of endless.
(laughter) Terasa> You got to break the cycle like you said.
Got to pull it- Andy> So honestly, a combination between hand removal, pre-emergent some spots, maybe a post-emergent, you know, use that whole... Amanda> Also, a lot of people now and I think it's a good idea even, you know, with woody perennials, wash the roots off of things when they get them.
Do y'all?
I mean, because, if they're in the soil and, you know, if you plant early enough, even with, herbaceous perennials, you can, you know, wash the roots off and not have those- And don't just, you know, and don't put or just shake the dirt off in a bank and don't throw it in your compost.
Andy> And especially like things like the Chamberbitter, Oxalis, anything, you know, Oxalis all those little tiny seeds.
And, you think maybe visually you've gotten them off, but a quick rinse certainly wouldn't hurt.
Amanda> Yeah.
Anyway.
Terasa> That reminds me, you mentioned about pre-emergent.
So... folks kind of need to know what weeds they're battling the one, because, you know, there's not like a one chemical that's going to do everything.
So do you have more broadleaf weeds?
Do you have grassy weeds?
And then what kind of turf do you have.
So that all is important to factor in.
Amanda> And the timing of when- Terasa> That's right.
Amanda> When you target it.
Terasa> That's right.
"Pre" meaning before it's germinated for the most part.
Amanda> And then I believe with most pre-emergents, I know for the one I put out, I had to water it in a certain amount, I think like, at least an inch or half inch, I can't remember.
So read the directions before you go and spend all that money and all that time, you know, and cross your fingers too.
Andy> Yeah.
And especially, like you mentioned, you know, the type of grass you have is important because certain types of herbicide you don't want to use on certain types of grass.
So, you know, just because this thing says broadleaf weed killer on it, you may want to read the label and make sure you know what kind of lawn you've got and make sure that it's listed for that.
(laughter) Amanda> It is complicated.
A good reason to shrink the size of your lawn, right?
Which Doug Tallamy tells us to do.
Okey dokey.
Well, let's see where we are now.
We have some more questions, I think, Terasa.
Terasa> Well, Abi and I were talking before the show.
Sometimes maybe strange, weird or unusual things happen in a garden.
And I think you have an example of some cross pollination.
Maybe a photo that you can share with us.
Abigail> Yes.
So, there is a 4-H garden, in Fort Mill... Amanda> Okay.
Abigail> That Kristin Kunde oversees.
She's the 4-H Agent for York, and that's that county over there.
They planted some pattypan squash, which is this little squash that's kind of- <Yeah> about this big, it's got those, like, scalloped edges.
And it cross-pollinated with the cucumbers that they had planted as well because they're both cucurbits.
And it created this like mutated looking squash.
And they sent us a photo of it and they were like, "What is this?"
"This is not what we planted and it looks crazy."
It almost looks like an octopus, the way that everything is, like stretched out and interesting.
Terasa> Maybe it'll be the new hot item on the market.
We can be entrepreneurial here.
Abigail> Try and save some seed.
Amanda> So, you told them it was perfectly fine to cook?
Abigail> Yes.
They can still eat it.
Amanda> Yeah.
Isn't that fun?
What a fun thing to have happen.
Abigail> Yeah.
Amanda> And they learned about, you know, genetics and... all that kind of stuff.
Fun, fun, fun, okay.
Okay, Andy, what you gonna tell us about?
Andy> You know, I was walking through the- Amanda> Get rid of that awful thing.
(laughter) Andy> Well, we're going to... we're going to switch the Chamberbitter, <Okay> with something a little more, more appealing.
And, not only is it visually appealing, but I'm sure the ones of you at the table can smell this delightful fragrance.
This is Ginger Lily.
This is Hedychium coronarium, the White Ginger Lily.
Amanda> I think the finest of them.
Andy> Sometimes called "butterfly ginger."
We look at it, we got a little butterfly looking flower there.
Amanda> Yeah.
Andy> Kind of mid to late summer bloomer.
And just absolutely so fragrant.
This is one of those plants, if you cut one of them, your house is going to smell great.
You cut like three or four of them, you may get a headache.
A little overpowering, you know, kind of like bringing Stargazer lilies into your house.
<Yeah> A little goes a long way.
But perennial garden plant.
Great.
Comes back year after year.
It will die back to the ground after the first frost.
We just cut the foliage back, throw some mulch over the top.
Spring comes along, it starts to shoot back out again.
A bunch of different kinds.
The white butterfly is the most common, but they do come in a range of colors.
Amanda> And I think they do well- I've seen them near the edge of ponds and lakes.
Andy> They can take it moist.
Yeah.
Amanda> Can't they take a very moist soil?
Yeah.
When I was a little girl, Mama had these and they smelled so good that I was sure they were going to be good to eat.
And I would taste one and it wouldn't- They don't taste good at all.
And a week or so later, I said "Maybe they, maybe I just didn't- my taste buds were off that day."
And I'd try them again, cause they do smell absolutely wonderful.
Well, thanks so much for telling us about that.
Andy> Well thank you.
Amanda> Yeah, okay.
And I think that's one that's easy to share with your friends because they multiply- Andy> Yeah, they have these big rhizomes.
And, you know, theoretically you can cut those rhizomes into little pieces as long as you have one of the buds in there, it'll give rise to a new plant.
You cut the rhizome, it causes some of the buds to break dormancy and new plants pop up.
Amanda> Isn't that fun?
Thank you for sharing that with us.
(sniffing sound) Mmmm, yeah, okay.
Terasa> It's too bad we can't send the fragrance, home to our viewers.
Amanda> Well, we can encourage them to get some.
I'm sure that it's easy to order.
And, or if a friend has one, they'd be glad to share with you and you can have them in your yard.
Yeah.
Do they need full sun, or can they take a little bit of shade?
Andy> Full sun to part shade, kind of some high shade.
Amanda> Yeah, which is nice too.
It's pretty adaptable, isn't it?
Andy> Very.
Amanda> All right.
Well, Terasa?
Terasa> Let's try to find another question to answer.
This one came in from Dia in Conway.
She said, "She's got a certified Carolina Yard."
She's been certified for over four years.
So congratulations on that.
She planted some Elderberry, one of her early native plantings.
And now they seem to be dying back at the tips.
And we can see that on the, accompanying photograph.
And she'd like to know, "What might be wrong with this Elderberry?"
Amanda> Well, Abigail, do you have any ideas of what's going on?
Abigail> Yeah.
So sometimes when you see those, like those leaves getting brown and kind of drooping the way that they were on the ends of those branches.
We call this "flagging."
There's a good couple of issues that can cause this.
And it's kind of hard to tell from this photograph- Amanda> And Elderberries are usually pretty carefree.
Abigail> Yeah.
It's a little difficult to tell what this is exactly, just from these photographs.
I would assume and Terasa was telling me before the show that it might be something like a, a borer inside the Elderberry.
Something like that, hurting it.
Terasa> Yeah.
I mean, flagging can be caused by a number of things.
We probably, folks probably saw it when we had the large cicada emergence in some of their trees.
Sometimes it can be due to disease, it could be due to, injury from climate conditions.
So we just need more information.
Sometimes it might be just observing on the part of the client.
But also I want to let folks know that we can send samples off to our plant and pest diagnostic clinic.
So, that can be done through your local extension office.
And... it's sort of similar to you maybe being tested for flu or strep or something like that.
You know, sometimes we just can't identify just by looking at it.
Amanda> But it is pretty carefree, normally.
And you see them all over the place.
They're are a lot of trouble to pick though.
(laughter) They're teeny, teeny, teeny teeny tiny.
But it's a nice native.
<Yes> And I'm sure all kinds of things take advantage of it.
I'm sure lots of, lots of critters don't think they're at all too much trouble to pick it.
Terasa> That's right.
You usually seem growing in wet areas, sometimes in the ditches.
And there are other Elderberries non-native Elderberries on the market now.
So if people are looking and they specifically want native, just encourage them to make sure they read that plant tag.
Amanda> And I believe they have hollow stems don't they?
Isn't it a good overwintering place?
Don't some things, I mean like to- build nests, some of the insects.
Terasa> I would have to look that up.
My, young-ish brain is not functioning right now.
(laughter) Amanda> I think that- Well, anyway... there are lots of reasons to like Elderberries.
They're generally very carefree.
But I will tell you, they will spread.
I planted some and they're kind of like, Uh-um... Got to get out here and get after them because they... they like to be happy.
And when they're happy, they like to let you know.
Is that a good way to describe it?
Terasa> There are certain plants that are like that.
Blue mistflower is, are hardy.
Ageratum is another one like that.
Which also likes moist areas.
When it's happy, it will spread.
Amanda> Okay.
Amanda> Well, South Carolina seafood is just a treat.
My mother made the best shrimp salad, and they're just all kinds of wonderful things that are coming in.
And we're going to Livingston's Bulls Bay Seafood in McClellanville and see what's on their plate.
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (sea gulls squawking) I am in a boat in the Cape Romain National Wildlife Refuge.
I'm speaking with Jeff Massey.
And your family has a seafood business down here in McClellanville.
> We do, Livingston's Bulls Bay Seafood.
Amanda> And today we are... out harvesting clams and, they are at the bottom of this waterway that we're in.
Jeff> Yes, we grow them in bags.
And, it makes it a lot easier to go out and harvest them when they're ready because you know exactly where they are.
You know, how long they've been down, how big they are.
So I can send out my, two or three man crew, and we can harvest 30,000 clams in an hour.
Amanda> Whoa!
And nature feeds them.
Jeff> All we have to do is put them out here.
And they feed on natural algae.
It's no... there's no feed that has to be given to them.
They all eat natural food.
And it's very, very cheap to feed them.
Amanda> And as they take in nutrients, the things that they don't want they expel.
And you said that's making a whole 'nother little ecosystem.
And you're seeing that as you come out here, tell me what all... Jeff> We get... just a barren mudflat out here, is what we look for to plant on.
And we will actually, create a whole ecosystem.
We'll plant a big block of bags.
There might be 2,000 bags in one block.
And it'll be two million clams in that block.
They clear the food out of the water, the water gets cleaner, eat all the junk in the water.
A mature clam, a full size clears 50 gallons of water a day.
Amanda> And by junk, we're talking mostly about algae.
So it's nothing that- Jeff> Yeah, well, they eat a little bit of algae and then anything else that's in there, they take it and they'll mix it and they spit it back out and it sinks to the bottom.
So the water actually gets clearer.
So they're improving the water quality where we are, but also, shrimp and crabs and little fish and birds and everything- When you get out here at low tide, it creates a whole new life area and everything lives and hides and feeds and grows and spawns and it... nothing was there before.
There might have been a conch crawling across there, but now it's a whole circus going on.
Amanda> And we're not depleting the resources of the ocean.
There's plenty of resources in it.
<Not at all.> When I was coming along, we didn't eat clams much in South Carolina.
I didn't think of them.
And why was that?
> Well, we just have this tradition built into everybody here in the South, that if it didn't have an "R" in the month, you didn't eat any kind of shellfish, oysters or clams or anything.
And... a lot of that was people were afraid it was bacteria.
Really, the problem was not the bacteria.
It was the fact that, we needed to give the animals a chance to restart.
They all spawn, they're all born in May.
And, during the summer is when they get a chance to get going and get a little size on them.
So that they're, healthy and they're productive again in the fall when we want to eat them.
And not to mention that they're the term we use in the industry is "poor."
They don't have a lot of meat to them during the summer because they burned up all their energy spawning, and now everybody's just recovering and getting ready.
Because it takes them about a year to really get ready for that big spawn in May.
Amanda> And so, you are able to have oysters throughout the year, though, because of the way y'all are, adding, bringing them in, the little babies and putting them down there so you can harvest them at the optimum time.
Jeff> That's right.
We plant oysters all year long so we can harvest oysters all year long.
And so ours... We get them, really, they don't- Most of them don't spawn until after they're over a year old.
So we're really getting to most of the oysters before their spawning.
Or right when they're starting to, and it's not a big spawn for them, so they don't lose a lot of their mass if they do.
Amanda> Tourism is such an important part of the economy of South Carolina, and I imagine that people coming down here who are more accustomed to eating clams have helped increase the demand for them.
Jeff> Dramatically so, all the tourists really want, fresh seafood that they're used to, and they, they harvest... clams and oysters more during the summer.
So that's what they want down here.
So that's what we provide.
We're able to... provide the shellfish to Myrtle Beach and to Charleston that all these tourists are wanting.
Amanda> And you tell me, and I can't wait- You've told me some of your favorite recipes and how you like to cook clams, so I'm excited because now all I have to do is come down to McClellanville any time of the year, and I can have these wonderful clams.
That start out about yay big- And that's what, about a third of an inch or a quarter of an inch?
Jeff> Yeah, they'll start at it's like four to six millimeters.
So it's right about a quarter of an inch.
Amanda> And then... you come out with various sizes.
And you say different restaurants and different people, different cooks, different cultures, like different sizes.
So when you open the bag there's going to be a good bit of variety, but somebody is going to want something.
Jeff> That's right.
We will pull out some of the biggest ones and they're top necks.
And those are the ones people like to stuff and do things like that with.
And then... the little necks are mainly what we sell.
And they're just, they're great steamed, they're great raw.
They're any way you want them.
I've never had a bad one.
Amanda> And then also, y'all have, oyster farming operation as well.
And they can... be available in the summer because they stay under the water and are nice and plump.
Is that correct?
Jeff> That's right.
We grow them in cages, so, we put them in deeper holes so they stay under the water all the time.
And we have very stringent requirements of what we can do when you bring them in.
You have to be back to the dock by ten o'clock in the morning.
You have two hours to get them down to temperature.
So we take all those rules very seriously.
And, we try to make sure we have a really good, healthy product.
Amanda> Well, I think it's wonderful that you found a way to, use this wonderful ocean that we have and keep it even cleaner.
It's just a completely sustainable way of farming.
And I want to thank you for telling us about it.
Jeff> And thank you for coming out here.
You're welcome to come get clams anytime.
Amanda> Thank you.
♪ (waves lightly splashing) > Do find some wonderful South Carolina seafood and cook it for your family.
Well, let's see what we've got next.
Have we got a question from somebody?
Terasa> I'm sure that we do.
We have a question from Calvin in Chester, who shared a photograph and asked, "What are these popcorn-like nodes on my pine trees?"
Amanda> Whoa!
Abigail, help us out here.
Abigail> So, in this picture that we got, it's kind of... gross to look like.
It's like this wet, white, like popcornesque substance.
And in that picture, you can actually see a beetle in the middle of the node.
So what this issue is, is these are pine bark beetles.
And there's a couple of different kinds of pine bark beetles you can get.
The ones in this photo, it's the larger variety.
They're black turpentine beetles.
This is something- it's a pretty bad issue to have with your pine trees.
There's not a lot you can do for the tree once it's infested.
But you can prevent spreading from the infected tree to the other tree.
There's a couple chemicals you can have injected into the trees to prevent the spreading, but it is costly and expensive.
So the best thing to do is just prevent this from happening in the first place.
You can keep your trees healthy, make sure they have adequate cultural conditions, and then that will prevent them from getting sick.
Because these beetles normally affect stressed out trees, not healthy trees.
Amanda> And trees give off signals somehow.
I mean, they can fight when they're in distress, but- Yeah, I mean, I've got a place in my yard with like 15 pine trees and, you know, it'd be very costly to have to- Fortunately, nature's been taking pretty good care of mine.
Abigail> That's good.
Amanda> Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I hate for these people- Abigail> It's very sad.
Amanda> And then it's expensive to have trees taken down.
<Yeah> And I mean, sometimes if you have a place where you can leave a tree, it's great because they're not a lot of... they're cavity nesting birds that need dead trees.
And so if it's safe to leave it, that's good, but sometimes it's not safe to leave.
Oh, goodness gracious.
Okay.
Andy, what you got?
Andy> I've got a little, another little interesting plant to show.
This is Eucomis, Pineapple Lily.
It's called "Pineapple Lily," because you can see, especially at the top here, the top of the plant, it looks like a little, little pineapple.
Amanda> It sure does.
Andy> And, so this is actually a bulb.
Amanda> That is quite a stalk.
Andy> Yeah.
This is the bloom stock.
So, you know, it's got, it's got kind of a rosette of leaves that come out, big strap like foliage.
This is a bulb, you can buy them, in nurseries, you know, already growing in pots.
Or you can buy them from bulb companies.
You know, you buy them in the spring when you're buying all your spring... <Okay> your spring bulbs, to plant for summer blooms, you know, it's a fairly common one.
This is Eucomis comosa, this is just the green pineapple lily.
Amanda> And is this one setting seeds?
Is that- Andy> Yeah.
Those are the... that will be the seed in there.
Yeah, so.
And also- Amanda> It's very handsome.
Andy> So very long lasting cut flower.
<Whoa!> And, interesting thing about Eucomis, is you can propagate this through leaf cuttings.
<No> So you can cut sections of the leaf.
Amanda> What does the leaf look like?
Andy> The leaf looks kind of like... well this is my ginger lily leaf, but let's imagine we had a bunch of leaves coming out of the plant, <Yeah> in a radial fashion- Amanda> At the bottom.
Andy> So you would just, you would just take a section of this leaf, a cross section, you would cut it.
<Alright> You've got to maintain the polarity.
That means up and down which side it goes on.
You would stick this cutting with the cut side- Amanda> Okay, just hold on a second.
So you want to be sure that you keep it- Now do you have to keep the up and down part, right?
Andy> No.
You just have to keep top and bottom.
So you're going to take a, a two inch section of leaf.
Cut it.
Stick this in some perlite, something like that.
Amanda> Very light.
Andy> Yeah, something that's going to give you some drainage.
Keep it moist.
We'll put ours on the mist bench in our greenhouse.
But you can also do it covering, you know, covering a pot with a plastic bag to kind of keep some humidity in there.
And then you'll start to see little bulbs form on the cut end of the base.
Amanda> No, little bulbs?
Andy> Little bulbs.
Yep.
Amanda> And then so... if you get one, if you order one how big would the bulb come.
Andy> If you order them, it's going to be the size of a daffodil bulb like a big daffodil bulb, if you order a bulb.
But if you propagate it I mean, it's going to take a couple of years for those bulbs to get mature- Amanda> If you really like them?
Andy> Right and you'll get multiple bulbs on each cut stem, on each cut section of leaf, multiple bulbs will form.
Amanda> And this comes back reliably every year?
Andy> Yeah.
These have been in the ground for 25 years.
Amanda> Golly Pete!
Don't have to- don't have to separate them every- Andy> I mean every now and then you do the bottom- They still seem to bloom nicely.
Amanda> Golly Pete.
Terasa> That's fascinating.
Is that a relatively unusual botanical feature, to be able to propagate and have the bulb?
Andy> Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of, from leaf cuttings, some plants do from leaf cuttings like, you know, Amanda's got some Begonias in her... You know begonias will do from leaf cuttings.
But... this was kind of unusual I think for this one to be able to be done this way.
Amanda> And I'll give a shoutout to Eric in your greenhouse.
<Yes> He does a good job.
Andy> He sure does.
Amanda> A good job over there.
Okay.
Well, thank you all so much.
Gosh, I've learned a lot and enjoyed having y'all here.
And so let's say goodbye to everybody at home.
And we hope that you'll come and be with us next week.
Night night.
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